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GLOBAL WARMING DIDN'T CAUSE HOT SUMMER
# 1. 8/9/12 12:31 AM
In the name of global warming people try to keep coal fire plants from poppinp up. Good thing no one was around in Henry Fords time or we would be in the Horse and Buggy days. Global warming makes plants grow better and is more pleasant anyway.
I don't know how we can control the weather. Volcanic eruptions and sunspots we have no control over. People use the weather to control us. Stop progress over things we have no control over. I enjoy electricity and cars to get me from place to place. People that complain about it don't use electricity or gas.
In the republican primary for county commissioner. I almost did not vote for someone because of there opposition to a coal fire plant. Would not of If there was a better opponent in Primary.
# 2. 8/9/12 1:29 AM by BSP
I disagree.....
I was taught 40 years ago in elementary school that man's pollution could cause the greenhouse effect that we hear about. I have no cause to doubt that.
Also, it is my contention that the destruction of the rain forests around the world is also having an effect on our climate/atmosphere.
It's that simple.
However, simple physics says that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So, whatever extra warmth we get, it's got to be colder somewhere. Right???
# 3. 8/9/12 2:15 AM
Maybe it is man made global warming and maybe it isn't. I doubt your opinion is based on anything other than a feeling, grown from being a member of the flat earth society
# 4. 8/9/12 2:32 AM by Darius - Rochester, NY
You have the right to believe and say whatever you want. One can choose to believe people who have made studying their climate and understanding it their entire life's work, or a B-list AM talk show host.
Have we strayed so far that conservatives tend to favor the latter?
Editor's Note: i'm not b-list anymore. i lost that job.
# 5. 8/9/12 3:05 AM by Sam
I think the gulf oil disaster has much to do with the heat so it interfered with the weather and that was man made and exhaust and all the pollution of course has to have an effect on the atmosphere however I believe we are headed more to an ice age and I consider myself a democrat. Not all democrats/liberals think the same. We do have our own opinions.
# 6. 8/9/12 4:23 AM by timmy
"I have an OBLIGATION to say it"? Really?
Calm down Bob!
# 7. 8/9/12 4:23 AM by B Smith
Science says otherwise. It is a fact that humans have put a lot of stuff in the atmosphere and it is more than obvious that it is having an effect just as scientists predicted. I think your problem is that your religion conflicts with the notion of a man caused problem. If everyone has eight kids, the problem is going to get a lot worse a lot faster. Conservatives don't win on this one and it is really sad that it has been turned into a liberal vs. conservative battle. Things keep going in the direction we are now, and there will surely be a mass die off and no one's "god" is going to prevent the inevitable.
# 8. 8/9/12 5:17 AM
No one believes you're a paid stooge of the oil companies, Bob. But you're a stooge nonetheless. You're the unpaid volunteer doing their work for them; they're counting on your innate love of chest-thumping to propel you to act on their behalf.
As for conspiracies, there is much more motivation for the oil companies to lie than for anti-climate change activists to do the same. Are you really so deluded as to think that billion-dollar corporations wouldn't do ANYTHING in their power -- including lying, cheating, stealing, buying politicians and deceiving suckers -- to maintain their financial picture? Regardless of your feelings about people on the other side, if you can't even imagine that, there's no help for you.
I don't support massive government-regulated changes to the way we live our lives, but man-made climate change is real and we, as a free people, should do something about it. Someone with eight kids should feel that most of all. But you're too busy feeling proud of yourself.
# 9. 8/9/12 5:33 AM by little john - Mt.Morris,N.Y.
And if you are wrong? Your children and grandchildren will pay the price; as well as your national debt.
# 10. 8/9/12 5:33 AM by hunter - e. bethany, ny
Amen! Imagine an early man and woman standing atop the receding glacier that covered western new york 15,000 years ago. Bert says to Gert, guess we will have to adapt to this new global-warming reality, give up ice fishing, build a mastodon-skin boat, take up fly fishing, and harvest the newly formed, albeit unnamed, Canandaigua Lake.
# 11. 8/9/12 5:46 AM by Cal - Rochester, NY
Bob,
You are so right! You hit the nail right on the head! What wisdom! And just to think, a few extra volcanic eruptions could put us back jnto a mini ice age, just as in the past! God is the One really in control....
# 12. 8/9/12 6:23 AM by Tom Dey - Springwater, NY
On top of that is the tacit presumption that change is identically bad. If we fund anything at all - it should be to adapt to the slow and slight rise and fall of oceans, temp creeps up and down, bit more CO2, dominance and recession of species. Big deal? - NO! Man's affect is miniscule, compared with natures vagaries. We can't change that and should adapt to the changes...as we always have. Yellowstone could blow tomorrow and not a thing we can do about that possibility other than get out a lawn chair and a cool drink.
# 13. 8/9/12 6:48 AM by Poplar Beach
Climate change is a fact of life, it has happened in the past and it will happen in the future. There are fossils of warm climate plants and animals in Canada and Alaska and millions of years from now there may be more similar fossils from our future.
These goofy scientists that think man can change that drive me crazy.
Right now there is drought in the USA and most South American countries are going to have bumper crops due to ideal growing conditions. Perhaps Hugo Chavez is behind climate change, I hear he has the ability to make volcanoes erupt, accelerating climate change at an alarming rate, that is why Sean Penn is cozying up to him.
I hear Penn has bought a nice ranch in Venezuela so he will have a place to escape to when the USA dries up and blows away.
Rumor has it that Al Gore and George Soros also have large ranches in South America.
I think we should arrest them all and water board them until they tell us about Hugo's plan. It is the only way to save the planet!
# 14. 8/9/12 6:51 AM by Woody
I'm sure man's actions has some limited effect on the weather. how ever that large bright ball that we call the sun is the main weather maker. Throughout the history of the earth major climate changes even before man inhabited it .
# 15. 8/9/12 6:58 AM by prick - webster
Bobby-boy,
What about 3 out of the last four winters "ending" by the middle of February? Golf in Rochester in the middle of March? Glaciers in Alaska receding by scores of miles?
Almost unanimously scientists agree that global warming is occurring at a faster rate than at any time in the earth's history. But Bobby-boy Lonsberry says there's no global warming and he, of course, knows everything.
# 16. 8/9/12 7:11 AM
Dedicated devoutly to ones ideology is one thing. Spitting in the face of science, as you are doing, is another thing.
There is nothing to understand about your "concrete" position other than it is not documented in with any kind of "concrete" evidence.
The issue of climate change isn't really the issue anyways. Climate change has happened throughout time, documented by the way with core samples of earth going back many milllions of years.
The issue is the rapidity of this climate change happening. That is the danger. It is happening so rapidly we can be caught in a big mess if we're not creful.
But hey, why am I wasting my time talking to someone who is so free he can snicker at science and scientists and call that all the product of a cult that hopes to enslave us all.
Here, here to the voices of the shock jocks on the right wing. We're sure they know more than the scientists. And don't ever for one second believe, though it's solidly documented, that the right wing is doing the bidding of the oil companies.
Documentation, schmockumentation. It's all a hoax ladies and gentlemen. All a hoax.
Geesus, what crapola.
# 17. 8/9/12 7:13 AM by Larry - Virginia
I don't think we can argue that temperatures have been higher lately, but it's hard to believe that people are causing it. The earth naturally heats and cools in cycles. I remember in the 1980's when they were talking about another ice age coming. As we now know, that was crazy too.
# 18. 8/9/12 7:20 AM by Abner D
Summer's hot! Run for your lives, the sky is falling!
In recent weeks, four fellow travelers posted articles in our beloved, but blatantly inaccurate and overtly racist D&C, advancing the marxist agenda of wealth redistribution via the Man-Made Global Warming scam.
Four articles on Man-Made Global Warming in a short period of time can't be a coincidence.
From where do they get their marching orders?
# 19. 8/9/12 7:33 AM by DD
Does the poisonous exhaust fumes from our cars, boats, motorcycles, furnaces and factories leave the Earth's atmosphere? If it can't go up, it can only come down. But let's all ignore that so Bobby can drive his car wherever he wants, whenever he wants.
# 20. 8/9/12 7:33 AM by Geoff Peterson
Can't wait for all the commie-pinko-wierdo posts today! They really crack me up!
# 21. 8/9/12 7:57 AM by Cindy K - Penfield, NY
This is something I have wondered all along - here in the US we are constantly being badgered to "go green" and do things for the ecology. Other countries, specifically China, have no restrictions of the kind. If you look at a globe and see how big the US is as compared to China and the rest of the world, you will think that, no matter how much the US 'goes green", it will not make a difference if the rest of the world belches out smoke, pollutes water, allows "greenhouse gases", etc. These EPA restrictions are a ploy to restrict manufacturing and industrialism, hence adversely affecting our economy. Not to say to unleash the EPA restrictions totally, but make the other countries submit to them too, if you are truly honest about your views on GLOBAL warming....just sayin'.
# 22. 8/9/12 8:03 AM by Mike - Greece
I knew the loony left has taken over common sense when we started burning our food (ethanol made from corn) in the name of environmental conservation.
# 23. 8/9/12 8:03 AM by Bob Wheaton - Crofton, MD
There has been changes in the climate for eons for eons long before man had SUV's or combustion engines or coal plants ... I remember when the Mt. St. Helens eruption / explosion happened (a natural occurrence by the way that spewed tons of stuff into the atmosphere). Anyway... all of the environmentalists were saying how it would be a wasteland for a century or more. What happened but that God's creation regenerated itself within ten years. I think it is very pompous to think we have the power over God's creation to affect it in any lasting way. We will perish before that happens.
# 24. 8/9/12 8:09 AM by BGR - %^$#chester, NY
Well according to these same people we are just a big accident anyways. So in the end, who cares? We had our time in the sun (ha ha) - if global warming is the end of all things, well, it was a good run.
Damn people running around with their hair on fire, acting like this ^%$# was supposed to last forever ...!
# 25. 8/9/12 8:11 AM
Your right, Jesus did!!!
# 26. 8/9/12 8:12 AM by Mike - Houston, TX
Bob...when did sheep learn how to read!!! Reading from some of the post, I am scared for our future!!! They need to go back to grazing and get ready to be slaughtered.
# 27. 8/9/12 8:15 AM by Adk Hiker
"The more the public grows skeptical of the global warming hoax, the more desperate the charlatans behind it become.
There is no global warming if by that one means a sudden, dramatic increase in the overall temperature of the Earth. It is not, nor ever was, caused by an increase in carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Earth’s atmosphere; currently a miniscule 0.038 percent. Climate science has demonstrated that CO2 increases show up centuries after a major change in the Earth’s temperature, not before....Steven Goddard, writing in the August 6th edition of Real Science, was quick to point out that “There were twice as many daily all-time high temperature records set or tied during the 1930s as in the 2000s, for USHCN stations which were operational during both decades." -
'The Utter Desperation of Global Warming Liars' . Wednesday, 08 August 2012 05:33 Alan Caruba
# 28. 8/9/12 8:15 AM by GEORGE (THE OTHER ONE) - GANANOQUE ONTARIO CANADA
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Two problems with the 'man made global alarmists';
1 - To environmentalist the climate is what they see today. It cannot change and must remain as it is, despite evidence that it has changed radically over the eons.
2 - They believe their own propaganda. How many times have we heard these people supporting their own lie with yet another lie that they have manufactured? The statement; "A majority of scientists support the theory of man made global warming." comes to mind. One untruth cannot be rationalized by making up another.
# 29. 8/9/12 8:16 AM
Hey Bob,
I wonder how Antonio Perez and cronies are doing today? You remember, the only CEO in America who stock lost 95% of its value and still has the balls to show up to work everyday. Secondly, all this hype now in the Country about having it "Made in America" because the government is losing billions in tax revenue. This is coming from the United States Congress, the same bunch of pricks who now are looking for a way out. Made everywhere, but not in America. Have a nice day!!!
# 30. 8/9/12 8:23 AM by Aaron
Rupert Murdoch, who hires the Hannitys who tell deniers what to think, said May 9,2007:
“Climate change poses clear, CATASTROPHIC threats. We may not agree on the extent, but we certainly can't afford the risk of inaction. We must transform the way we use energy...”
# 31. 8/9/12 8:26 AM by Rick G. - Spencerport, NY
I've been up to Alaska and saw grassy hillsides that used to be glaciers. Whether this was caused by something manmade or if it's a natural cycle, I can't say. It sure happened fast, though.
People often need a scapegoat for things they don't understand. The problem with the global warming folks is that they can easily place blame, but their solutions are to either throw us back into the dark ages or severely limit a comfortable lifestyle of which we have grown accustomed.
# 32. 8/9/12 8:31 AM by A Patriot - Lockport, NY
I did my part this morning. I saved a flush by peeing in my backyard.
# 33. 8/9/12 8:33 AM
The global warming myth should have died with the exposure of the East Anglia e-mails showing data tampering and suppression of skeptical opinions. Why would anyone expect honest scientific research from universities that are dependent on government grants. If a university hires or retains a scientist who is skeptical of man-made global warming, it jeopardizes its position to receive federal money.
# 34. 8/9/12 8:37 AM by Christopher - Newport News, VA
The earth's climate has been changing for thousands of years. Show me the documented proof that man has caused global warming. Most of what I see is environmental extremist acting irrationally to force political change. I suggest that the environmentalist calm down and act responsibly, and rationally argue their point. I'm a rational man. I can be persuaded with logic and reason. Not emotional outburst and coercion.
# 35. 8/9/12 8:37 AM by Carol - Fairport
Denial of this reality and basic science is a sad testament to the omnipotence of fossil-fuel interests and their propagandists, the utter impotence of our mass media and governments, and finally, our education system, which has failed us outright.
# 36. 8/9/12 8:38 AM by Mark
1918 was even hotter of a summer. And let's not forget the dustbowl. What do we blame those years on?
# 37. 8/9/12 8:42 AM
Unfortunately, the whacko environmentalists and global warming believers have what used to be called the 'free press' on their side. Do you have any doubt that Obama will once again receive the endorsement of the D&C with one paragraph dealing with his efforts to stop coal mining which will raise the price of natural gas to the point where wind and solar can compete. The global warming crowd appears to be comprised of inner-city white chicks, sensitive males, Hollywood actors, T. Boone Pickett who stands to make billions if wind power could compete with coal or gas and the Democratic party leaders who will make millions off of the 'green energy' companies they support.
Seldom do the believers of the cause truly understand the minds of the leaders.
# 38. 8/9/12 8:43 AM by Mark
Besides, who says the climate is currently at the perfect state and should remain right where it is? I'm sure that early man didn't complain when the ice retreated.
# 39. 8/9/12 8:44 AM by Lorette
To#20.....wow, commie,pinko,wierdo.Yawn. I'm crushed. How long did it take you to come up with those original thoughts?
# 40. 8/9/12 8:44 AM by Dan
Ok so what's the upside?
Extreme weather will create more school days off from hurricanes and freak snow storms in the winter!
Camels! More deserts equals more camels, who doesn't love camels?
# 41. 8/9/12 8:47 AM by Ed
Santa Claus. He's not going to be the same when he's all soggy.
# 42. 8/9/12 8:49 AM by Rick G again (sorry) - Spencerport, NY
Let’s just say it is man made. We’re doing it. Now what?
All the folks who are on the global warming side are - for the most part - still driving, still taking buses, still using manufactured products, still heating their homes somehow, still taking hot showers, still eating, still flushing the toilet, still drinking purified water, still generating garbage and the list goes on.
I think most of us appreciate conservation. We all try to be good stewards of our land, but until I see the Al Gores of the world living unbathed in a dirt floor hut and eating food they hunted and gathered themselves, you couldn't point me to a bigger bunch of hypocrites than the global warming crowd.
# 43. 8/9/12 8:52 AM by Floyd
Alot of opinions both ways. My humble opinion is it's better to be safe then sorry. What's the worst that can happen if we heed these global warming scientists? Pollute the earth less?
Editor's Note: bankrupt america and destroy the quality of life of its citizens
# 44. 8/9/12 8:53 AM by Scott - Henrietta, New York
Hi, Bob:
The key word in your column is…Control. Another one that should be in there is…Money.
The Greenies are making big buck screaming about Global Warming. Look at Al Gore. He made millions and millions of dollars by going around the country, and the world, screaming about the Global Warming Boogey Man.
Yet at the same time, Al was using more energy and leaving a larger carbon footprint than more than 100 average Americans combined. Don't forget his mansion in Tennessee, and his using charter jets for his personal travel.
His new 8.9 million dollar "house" in Montecito, California is next to the Pacific Ocean. The same ocean he claims where the water level is rising and is going to flood the West Coast in a couple of years. Things that make you say "Hmmm".
Don't forget this stuff about "Carbon Credits". Personally, to me it sounds like selling the Brooklyn Bridge or the Moon
Another word that should be in your column is…Hate.
Many Greenies are sincere in their concerns. And, I thank God for them. We can't be destroying environments, because that will destroy us. Remember the warnings about not eating the fish caught from the Genesee River.
However, many Greenies just hate, period. When they find a target to let their rage out on, truth, facts, and silly little things like that, don't matter. They hate people more than they love the things they claim to love. Like spotted owls, the pink spotted salamanders. The owls and salamanders are just excuses to act out on their hate.
And, that is what "Global Warming" is all about. Haters loving to hate.
# 45. 8/9/12 8:54 AM by tw
I don't think there's any doubt that climate change ("global warming" is a misnomer used by the uninformed and stupid) is happening. That is fact.
What isn't understood completely is whether humans are causing it, or if it just the natural evolution of our earth's climate, or something in between.
I'm a democrat, but I tend to think it is the latter. This whole "cult" idea is sensationalistic and fun to write about, but pretty moronic.
# 46. 8/9/12 8:58 AM by drummerpa - Rochester, NY
Well said. I for one am sick and tired of these claims of manmade global destruction. It truly is a crock.
# 47. 8/9/12 8:59 AM by Gus
Bob, You should be more concerned with population control. We cannot continue to breed at an infinite pace, there's just not enough resources to support the "human appetite".
# 48. 8/9/12 9:04 AM by Heather - SUNY Brockport
Al Gore tried to warn us. Sadly Bush and his brother cheated him out of the White House. I often think what a better world we might have had if Al Gore would have been president. Instead we had two terms of a war-monger who denied both global warming and the economic recession...all the while driving us deep in debt.
# 49. 8/9/12 9:10 AM by alexander - upstate ny usa
eat more cow so they stop farting. cows are causing GW, not people.
# 50. 8/9/12 9:11 AM by hc
I'm the srtsy-fartsy one in the family so math science stuff goes over my head a lot.
So I defer to my brother, who is a meteorologist for the National Weather Service and would agree with you in a heartbeat.
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